It will keep the gun just out of battery when reversed. I've got a 3rd gen G19 that I use as a suppressor host. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. The tools. I think I had a similar problem once. I don't know what the freaking problem is with my gun not going back into battery. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! The problem is once I pull the trigger, and the slide racks either from firing or manually, it won't return fully to battery while the trigger is held back. Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. I will give anything a try because I can't afford to just eat the cost of this slide and buy a new one. I plan on speaking to Glock tomorrow now that I have a bit of an idea. It did shoot fine. My Glock 21SF threaded barrel sucked for the first 100-200 rounds fired, but once it wore in it has been very good. Your link has been automatically embedded. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. I have played with many Glock triggers and trigger parts since then, both Glock and aftermarket selections, looking for that secret sauce. Upload or insert images from URL. I will look into it. The issue is the 19 will not go into battery when I pull the slide back. "Laws that forbid the carrying of armsdisarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimesSuch laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." Not throwing shade on your loads just trying to eliminate a variable. Have you tried shooting it? I am still useing the stock recoil spring and striker spring. I had a friend of mine install the 3.5 connector with the NY1 trigger spring on my old Glock 19. It sounds more like a recoil/mag spring issue to me. Or at least use it as a starting point to tweak in a different direction than a Timney??? Its the archer not the arrow i know, but i was immediately more accurate with the timney. I gave it a little more oil than normal and seems to be getting better. I bought a LW threaded barrel direct from Gemtech last year for my suppressor. Ive tried swapping the extensions to different mag bodies for what its worth and the result is the same. I've read through a lot of the big thread on the Timney Trigger, and have searched, and haven't been able to find similar malfunctions happening with the Timney. It has a Scherer 3.5 connector. You can get calipers from Harbor freight, they are not the best but have a large read out display and I find them as accurate as Frankfort Arsenal digital calipers,you will use them for many gun related projects. Another dumb question is are you intimately familiar with taking the gun part and putting it back together? BTW, it fired and function 100% last night for 250 rounds with the spring installed incorrectly. You may not post anything that is remotely related to, or tangentially related to, sales, deals, trades of firearms, ammunition, or explosives Per Reddit's Policy r/Glocks, Press J to jump to the feed. After about 500 rounds, and a couple of good cleanings it began cycling fine. I'd take it to a gunsmith or a local shop with glock experience before it gets made worse. What Argyle said sounds about right. Back to the G19m and several more failure to fires. If you aren't getting drag marks on the underneath side of the slide from it, I would leave it be, other than giving it and the bar itself a good polishing. I can't figure out how the trigger would cause that kind of malfunction anyway, but it's the only change I've made before the malfunction started. Powered by Invision Community, failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger. I read it gave a much nicer trigger pull. Seat the magazine and pull the slide back all the way. sounds to me like the Timney is your problem, not the Glock. I noticed this after a cleaning. In the end, you will want to have at least 2/3 to 3/4 of the sear face/firing pin engagement to be safe. The lead tech at Suarez International was not only less helpful, but a total jerk about it. this is normal for a glock as they are not designed to have the slide closed slowly like this. How much did you need to take off? When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. BTW, the Cold Bore work is really nice! Seat the magazine and pull the slide back all the way. I had the luxury of multiple Glocks to fall back on, though. Matter of fact, I have a couple of triggers from Charlie Vanek that he used a Lone Wolf connector in that he had tuned up. There's too much risk of changing the angle, removing too much material, and or rounding the edges(which will result in decreasing surface area). It may not display this or other websites correctly. Once I put the stock one back in no problems. Anyways, I noticed when messing around with it that the slide is not going all the way back into battery when I ride the slide forward while holding the trigger back. Hope you were able to get yours sorted out. There is a lot of stuff interacting to make the gun work and sometimes it can be hard to figure out. Is this normal with these mods? When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. I will look into buying some calipers. That's an easy way to figure out if you're just limp wristing or if it's a mechanical issue. the sig comment was really a non sequitur. To check the recoil spring for wear I was told to remove the magazine and empty the gun. Just got my G26 back from Cold Bore Customs and did a quick trigger job, installed a smooth trigger and an extended slide release. Thank you! If all fails, trade in and buy a Glock 19. Any update on this? You should seriously look at the takedown lever. Did lots on it and got it running like 98%. Is this RSA going to $hit already? So let's make sure we understand this situation. JavaScript is disabled. I am finding that especially when dry-firing, even when I am careful to let the slide "slam" shut, the slide hangs up right before lockup. Ammo from the same box will fire fine in my 92A1 and P228, and G19 with the factory barrel. Your link has been automatically embedded. Ive had to bump up my striker spring to get their a few boxes of really old PMC primers that came my way. Can also try downloading the magazine by one round. It's great. Buy, Sell, and Trade your Firearms and Gear. It only hangs up if I hold the trigger back as if shooting off the reset. I do not recommend using a dremel on that. So w/o any round the chamber, pull the trigger back and hold it, then ease slide back and look for the slide to raise up some. Thanks. Check for it. I am sure it has to do with some of the mods I've done. Slide not fully returning to battery while trigger hasn't been reset (G19) So I have a G19, cerakoted slide. None of my other Glocks do it. I was a little afraid to fire it after I ran the recoil spring test and it didn't go back into battery. this is normal for a glock as they are not designed to have the slide closed slowly like this. I recall him going into the slide then saying "wait, I don't have to mess with this." I am pretty familiar, but I work with a Glock Advanced Armorer and even he is a bit stumped. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. If so swap slides and eliminate the slide being the issue. I am shooting my handloads right now it is 124 but will go back to 115 once this batch runs out. Who knows. *********************************************, [URL]https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp?campaignid=XI026751. I have not stripped the slide but I'm sure I could figure it out if the issue is there. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. I initially chalked it up to the recoil spring being too light or a magazine issue, but it's still happening after swapping the stock, barely used RSA back in, and it has happened with all of the extensions. UPDATE! Let me start by saying that I know I bought the wrong aftermarket slide. Remove as little material as necessary while maintaining the proper angle on it (sear face). Im a little ahead of you on this path. I put some vibratite on the screw and am going to head to the range to test it in a few minutes. It has failed to return fully to battery once but every other time, it's a brief hesitation then it snaps into battery. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Rochester-Personal-Defense-LLC/461665857219329, Laws and Politics - Firearms/Self Defense/Weapons. Could be ammo related. I run Zev guide rods and adapter rings on my Gen4 17 and 21, along with ISMI recoil springs that are 15lb rated. This is also why I ended up trying the Timney. You may post anything as long as it is related to the Glock line of pistols, and you are not spamming our sub with your advertisements, sales, YouTube channel. Let it forward a little bit and then let go. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. I should have added this in the OP. My current set-up is a glockstore tungsten guide rod w/ 13lb spring, TTI Grand Master spring and connector kit, and SRO on a forward controls design plate. Comedian and Student of Life | Ep 029 JP Sears, [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Looking for help. Pasted as rich text. This may sound crazy but if you or a buddy have a tac light slip it on the rail and try firing again. This did the trick. Do you have a Glock Armorer orange endplate that allows you to see the striker trigger bar engagement?. Display as a link instead, I don't know if that is the problem, but thank you for trying to help. Thanks. Agree with Danzig but I actually suspect it may have more to do with the slide, if your Suarez slide has been caracoated or duracoated there is the possibility of some build up in the slide rail slots or on the bottom of the slide in the area where the connector rides causing your problem. But about 1-2 rounds out of 100 it wouldnt quite go in to battery and Id need to tap the back of the slide slightly to seat it (started off at like 3 in 5 rounds). Just wanted to point out that you can limp wrist with both hands on the gun and if everything is stock like you said, and you truly believe it has only been fired once, I default to user error. Here's how you can test if it's a recoil spring issue: 1 With the pistol empty, pull the trigger, and keep the trigger depressed. I wonder if it doesn't have enough pressure to hold itself in place. I can't have more than 1500-2000 rounds through this pistol. Technical Factory Pistols Glock failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger By Nick29 February 21, 2022 in Glock Share Followers 2 Reply to this topic Start new topic Nick29 Posted February 21, 2022 Nick29 Members 10 Gender:Male Location:San Antonio, TX I couldnt be happier. can your extractor move freely? Based on your answers, I would suggest (2) things. Paste as plain text instead, If all else fails I'll call Glock. I'm going to investigate your suggestions. It's as if the holding of the trigger is holding back the slide somehow. I was not really paying attention to what he did. No aftermarket parts except Night Sights on a Glock that is going to be a Self Defense Weapon. This is a brand new firearm and before you fired even one round down range you took it apart and modified it thus you have no baseline performence to know what the firearm was doing before you "improved" it. If it does, you may want to look into a ligher recoil spring kit to continue using your existing loads. Now I admit I am not sure if this is happening when i take the slide off, but I am guessing not. In my opinion, I'd suggest the factory rounds (or load a hotter load) and find out if it solves the problem. Your previous content has been restored. Riding the slide is not recommended so not letting the slide run forward untouched should make it OK, IMO. While dryfiring; with trigger depressed, when I pull the slide backwards about half way to reset it, the side won't go into battery. Assuming you called Glock, how did they respond to this issue? You should buy one of these if you don't already have one. You must log in or register to reply here. What happens when you let the slide slam forward? Great info! I agree with comments a few others have already made that Timney triggers are not necessarily a simple drop in. Break it in!!! I have a couple Dawson and Henning magazine extensions. FYI it's not the recoil spring. Powered by Invision Community. The only reason I switched to be honest, especially with primer scarcity. Paste as plain text instead, Its light but mushy. I am not LE but I was able to take the course just had to drive a hour to where they were having it. One new winner* is announced every week! that should fix it for sure, I assume you are using the "U" shaped washer as well ? Sometimes they go in crooked and stick up a bit. ago I'm not missing a pin I just put the wrong one in, and that's honestly what I thought, I'll try to fix it and see if it helps 1 Reply I haven't had a chance to try a stock magazine yet. - Bren. In addition, if you just had the slide (and / or frame) refinished, there is an excellent chance you will need to shoot some rounds to get the coatings thinned out in the right spots. Nice pull and crisp break. I mostly shoot 147gr Federal American Eagle. I sent 100 rds down range today and no problems. Several failures to go into battery per magazine? The gun has about 11,000 rounds through it. The problem is when the slide slams forward. If you see light off-center strikes it may well be. Your load seems fine to me - adequate for a typical Glock 19 to operate well. I have to say that with a little tuning my Timney triggers run like no other Glock trigger I have owned and they are really a game changer for Glock pistols if you look closely at how they function! In my opinion, I'd suggest the factory rounds (or load a hotter load) and find out if it solves the problem. Never an issue with limp wristing so far. Let my aim be true and my hand faster than those who would seek to destroy me. AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. If the firing pin did not drop then chances are that is the issue. I have just installed an Agency arms trigger & trigger bar in the gun. Just a thought. I could measure how it was off. and Mrs. America turn in your guns' - I would have!". Glocks are pretty simple really. I bought the G19 new, and ive never torn the slide down. The plunger spring somehow got turned sideways. I have never really seen the need for an "armorer" when working with my Glocks. 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